P.S.: Happy New year everybody:D

Also exp was alot different, there was no recruit a friend and WoW has changed so much since those days. I agree that it has went towards easier leveling and promoting the more casual gameplay.

I do play wow and never played Aion because most of what i hear its not worth my time, i know what i like and grinding is not one of them. I listen to raim’s podcast and have heard some good things on aion but for me it just doesnt sound like a game i want to play.

As a whole, id have to agree with about everything raim said.

You also say that in World of Warcraft you can get good gear easily. Well thank WoW for being so generous that you dont have to sit at a computer for several hours a day to get good gear like a liveless person would do. Finally a game that allows people to compete with everyone and still keep the border intact that seperates the people who play casually and the people who play hardcore.

World PVP in WoW is not dead. You can still pvp in the open world dude. Dead means it is gone, you can not do it anymore. While I am leveling I can kill alliance and they can kill me. I even have fun doing it. It may be that the world pvp is mostly gone, but the pvp has transferred to the battlegrounds. And I think that it is actually leveling friendlier. Instead of getting beat the shit out of me every 2 secs by a higher level, I can actually finish quests and levelup. So in Aion I had to look around that there aren’t any red names around, the same goes for WoW. It’s idiotic saying that it takes more skill if you have to look around for red names. It is just another feature to the game, and both games have it.

And so what you actually have to pvp for the best gear in the game. In WoW you can get good gear with PvE and PvP. Aion is a PvP focused game. WoW has something for everyone, both the PvP player and the PvE player.

And so we come to your next argument: the mobs are harder in Aion. Oh my gosh, It takes a minute extra to kill a mob. You get twice the xp per mob though. It does NOT take skill to take a monster down in Aion, it just takes more time. And what if you can do multiple mobs at a time. A gladiator can’t, he misses the AoE in the earlier levels. The templer? Oh wait, he cant heal himself. The healing classes maybe? Nope, they are a bit easy to kill. This just means that the way you level is different than in WoW. In WoW you are allowed to be the powerful hero and take on bands of robbers. In Aion you are a powerful daeva who is able to kill other powerful monsters on an equal basis.

What I am trying to say is that WoW is just different from Aion. Aion takes a lot more time per item of doing things. Killing mobs take more time, leveling takes more time, everything takes more time. WoW allows you to level up quick, gear up quick and have fun quick. Aion and WoW are just two entirely different games. Aion may take a little longer, but it is nearly impossible to see which game takes more skill dirka. The skill it takes to compete against other players in a game, is as high as the skill of the other players. And the PvE content in Aion is noticibly(sorry for my spelling ^^) less than in WoW, because Aion is a pvp focused game.

Maybe you are more experienced in Aion once you reach 50. But it just takes a crap load of time to reach 50. During your progress to 50, you learn different skills. When some people get to 30, they think they know how to play their class. I got a surprise for them. The last 20 levels give you a lot of more skills which makes your class play entirely different. Saying that you need to play a lot with your class to understand it better is entirely true. But you can only start to understand it once you can grasp around all its abilities. Which means getting to the end level which in Aion takes a lot longer than in WoW.

Btw Raim, you are right. Everywhere I go on forums, there is always one or two threads about this type of topic. WoW gets compared to everything.

P.S. god, I type a lot xD

In WoW, at level 80 purples are thrown at you. You do a few heroics run Naxx, you’re geared.

WoW… World of WARcraft, where is the WAR? PvP servers seem to have the best raid guilds. raid? PvE? There’s not to much incentive to PvP in WoW. Most people would rather raid, even on a PvP server.

World PvP is dead since vanilla.

To get geared in Aion, face it, you have to PvP for the best gear.

Where is this so called grind? Quests seem to last me awhile.

You hit level 20. There’s no way you ran out of quests and had to ‘grind.’

People say Aion takes more skill because throughout the leveling process you are constantly in fear of getting killed by opposing players, well, I wouldn’t call it fear exactly, but you’re always on the look out.

Mobs are way harder, start a Death-Knight in WoW and you can take on 6 monsters at a time, taking 2 monsters on in Aion requires some steady use of heals/cooldowns, IF your class can heal. If not then a good understanding of class mechanics and mangement should get the job done.

Elites are actually Elites in Aion. The term ELITE can’t even be used until you hit HEROICS in WoW.

The time it takes to hit 50 in Aion, after constant attack from Elyos or Asmodians, has you as a battle hardened player who should know their class fairly well. Where in WoW, you just hit 80 to soon to even have a descent understanding of your class. Some people do, but a lot don’t.

Ball’s in your court.